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Hi Pete, My spouse and I have been sleeping on a 9-10 yr. old Beauty Rest Black, “Edenton” Lux Firm mattress along with a 2” soft latex topper.
We’ve been thinking it’s probably ready for replacing them, but are waiting until we can better afford to do so. We have a platform bed along with an “Avenco Hybrid” mattress that has been in our guest bedroom for two years, which has been used maybe 4-5 times, for about a week each time. Our eldest daughter will be moving in and using that guest bedroom which requires us to remove the bed in there as she’s keeping her own. We’re not sure which mattress to keep for our bedoom…. the older Beautyrest Black or switch it out for the newer Avenco Hybrid. I weigh 155 lbs and my spouse 150. I have disc problems and we’re both in our mid 70’s, so shoulders and to some degree, hips, have been hurting for both of us. I’m just afraid if we part with the older BR Black and keep the Avenco or vise versa, we might be making the wrong decision on which one gets discarded. Thanks so much, Pete- you are our expert! Sam Hi Sam, You have one of the last mattresses made by Simmons. Almost immediately afterwards, Simmons was sold to an investment group that also bought Serta. What you have is far superior to the mattress in your guest bedroom. The latex topper has absorbed all of your body weight, which has preserved the mattress, which should still be like new as a result of using that topper. If you haven’t done so, rotate the mattress and flip the topper over. You’re nowhere near needing a new mattress, since it hasn’t worn much over the years. In fact, given your sizes and ages, you can expect that mattress, used with a latex topper, should last you for the rest of your lives. It is probable that you need a new topper. Is so, Latex for Less has the lowest prices on the highest quality Pure, Organic and Hypoallergenic Latex Toppers available anywhere. You might consider a 3” Soft for extra comfort, given your shoulder and hip discomfort. If ordering a new topper, be sure to order the organic cotton cover to go with it, which is optional. Here’s the link for the Latex for Less Latex Toppers: Latex for Less Pure, Organic Latex Mattress Toppers https://www.latexforless.com/products/latex-topper?variant=134346899481&sscid=71k8_rmsu0&utm_source=share-a-sale&utm_campaign=4342051 Thanks, Pete - TME Questions? https://www.themattressexpert.com/contact.html#/ TME Website: https://themattressexpert.com/ Delivery is Always Free Online Ordering is Easy & Secure. Visa, M/C, Discover, Amex Financing Available Follow us on Facebook & Instagram
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Garth writes: Hi Pete, My wife and I are needing to replace an old Simmons Beautyrest Black Mattress. And me being a research fanatic, I found your site, AND LOVE it, and all you’ve educated us with! A million thanks for your well-written documentation, and frankness. Your “need to know” page is the BEST ever! Apologies in advance for such a long email! Here’s our situation, followed by the usual questions you receive from all of us. In 2008 my wife and I bought our very first expensive mattress, and we have LOVED it since day one!! 15 years later, for the most part, we still love it today, but its body divots are a bit much. We need to replace it. We bought a Queen Simmons Beautyrest Black, Executive (paid about $2,800). You can confirm, if my memory serves me or not, but I recall stats on this bed were something like…around 2,000 coils(?), latex, sides covered in cashmere. There is ZERO jiggle when the other gets into or out of bed, or when turning. We bought the thinner box spring for it. We are now 63 & 66 and we still sleep VERY comfortably in it. We want to replace it with the same type/firmness in king size. Given all that you’ve written, we only want another bed with similar, if not exactly the same design….a ton of coils, and latex. NO MEMORY FOAM. Cost is not an issue. I weigh 195 (6′-0″ft), and she weighs 135 (5′-4″). I sleep 85% on sides, 15% back. She sleeps 5% side, 95% back. I have no body aches/pains. My wife has minor aches/pain in lower left back and left hip. So far, it looks like the Natura of Canada Greenspring pocketed coil & latex may be a match? I don’t know if the Firm or Luxury Firm is the closest match to our Beautyrest Black? We have the old metal frame. We have a head board with storage doors (yes, it’s from the 80’s), and if both the Greenspring mattress and foundation are 12″ each, that will put the mattress high for the headboard. Question: if both are 12″ high, can the foundation/mattress sit directly on the floor? Does the warranty require the mattress/foundation be ON a frame, or is the carpeted floor OK? Is either OK? Q: Was the latex in our 2008 Beautyrest mattress Talalay or Dunlop? Q: What do you think about Greenspring as a match, and if so, which one? Q: If not Greenspring, what brand/type do you recommend to be closest to our Beautyrest Black? Thanks so very much for your time and expertise, and if you have any questions, please ask. Garth Good Morning Garth, Yours was an excellent quality mattress, but now, it’s gone. Simmons still makes a “Black” Beautyrest, but since being sold to investors, they’ve switched to memory foam upholstery. The motion reduction comes from the individually pocketed coils, which all move independently from the others. The coil count depends on how you look at it. Some fuzzy math was involved. In a queen size, there were 900 pockets. The coil “density” was 1000, which meant that 1000 pocketed coils would fit, had it not been for the foam encasement around the perimeter of the mattress. Each pocket had one wire configured into two coils…hence the 2000 coil count. The Natura of Canada Greenspring is one of the highest quality mattress brands I was able to find while shopping at the industry trade shows. The coil count in queen is 1020…using heavy gauge double tempered steel. Beautyrest coils for a plush model are thinner and not mage with tempered steel. There was a little latex in yours, a little memory foam and mostly poly foam. The Natura mattress is mostly latex and a little plant-based poly foam. Due to the high density and quality of the components, the Ultra Plush model is the most comfortable, without being too soft. That’s the one my wife and I sleep on at home, and it’s our most popular mattress…with zero complaints. Ours is 9+ years old and still in like new condition, despite the fact that we are each over 200 lbs. The Ultra Plush is the model I recommend for you. Click on this link to view specifications and prices. https://www.themattressexpert.com/natura_mattresses.html#/ The mattress is 13.5″ thick. Order the 5″ foundation to go with it and keep your frame. White Glove Delivery is Free Thanks, Pete  |
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